LLCs vs. LPs in Syndication and Equity Funds: Navigating the Choices
20 years ago, almost all
syndications and investment
funds used limited partnerships.
Instead of limited liability
companies that has changed the
landscape is different. Now, the
vast majority of them use
Limited Liability Companies
instead of limited partnerships.
So what makes the most sense for
you for your syndication for
your investment fund, I'm gonna
give you some thoughts about
what the advantages are, what
the differences are, and then
you can decide for yourself what
you think might be the best pick
for your syndication or
investment.
My name is Tilden Moschetti. I
am a syndication attorney with
the Moschetti Syndication Law
Group. We specialize in putting
investment funds syndications
together for syndicators,
investment fund managers, help
them make sure that they are
successful. And it's part of
that what we do is spend a lot
of time on the structure, not
only on how to split, how
distributions happen, and how
all the rights and things like
that, but even from the very top
level, what's that entity
structure look like? And one of
the key things that's often
asked at the very beginning of
an engagement is, Well, should
we do it as a limited liability
company? Or should we be a
limited partnership? Now, there
are some differences, some major
fundamental differences, and
they might not be the ones that
you would think. So the first
main difference between the two
comes down to taxation. Now, you
might think that the taxation is
the same, right? They're both
taxed as partnerships. Well, in
liability, limited liability
companies have the option of to
be taxed as a corporation, but
most of the time, you don't do
that. Right. So they're the same
thing? Well, actually, no, they
are still different. So the tax,
the IRS treats partnerships,
different still based on whether
it's an LLC or a limited a
limited partnership. And the
reason is that nuance, they're a
little bit different, there are
actually two different kinds of
people there do different kinds
of entities. So for example, an
LLC has straight pass through
taxes, it's very clear cut, you
get your K ones, it's all
spelled out there. On the
partnership return for a limited
partnership, it can be different
general partners are treated a
little differently than limited
partners. Now, this has
advantages, some limited
partnerships are set up to pass
specific credits through that
can only go to limited partners,
but the general partner itself
and that's you the sponsor,
right. So may have to claim
income and may not get some of
the depreciation benefits,
because it's the general partner
and not the limited partner. So
it may not be as efficient as a
tax vehicle for, for you as a
sponsor, it'll certainly be more
beneficial for the for your
limited partner, but not
necessarily for you. The second
difference is management. So
LLCs are incredibly flexible, we
can tool them and change them
and move them around to really
be a construct a whole structure
of what makes the most sense for
your syndication or the fun.
Limited Partnerships have much
less, the general partner is in
complete control. That's it end
of story that may not fit with
what some investors need in
order to come in. And that's why
we've I why I think we've seen
the shift from limited
partnerships to just to limited
liability companies over the
past 20 years. The third change,
and this is also very important
for you as a sponsor is
liability protection, you might
think because it's called
limited partnership that you
have liability protection as a
general partner yet don't, there
is no liability protection for
general partners of a limited
partnership, they will have that
as part of limited liability
company, but you don't as a
limited partnership. So a lot of
times, you may go into thinking
that you want to be a limit an
LP structure, but then you
realize that now you've got this
huge amount of exposure, and we
have to build out some
additional walls in order to
protect you and your assets. So
some of the advantages of an LLC
are this. So you get the
flexibility in the structure,
like I talked about, we can make
it look like however you want it
to look like you've got the
straight pass through taxation
that makes it very clear that
all taxes just get passed
through to the individual
partners themselves whether
they're taking on a more LP role
or a GP role. It doesn't matter.
It all passes through, there's
this asset protection of the GP
of the person in charge of you,
the sponsor is there as part of
a limited liability company.
Now, we still take the extra
step of building in a
sponsorship entity, as you've
seen in my other videos, to make
sure that that protection is
there very, very strongly for
you. But it's very clearly
delineated. But also, the
advantage is, it's a clear
distinction between your
business assets are the assets
of the LLC, are very different
than the assets of you
personally, as a person, you
don't have that same level in a
limited partnership, if you're
the GP. And the lastly of the
advantages of an LLC is that
ease of formation and
maintenance, they're just plain
simpler. The laws of LLCs are
very, very similar across all of
the states, the only thing that
changes are very subtle nuances
between what's there and what
what's necessary and things like
that. But there, it's it's very
straightforward about how those
are done. Limited Partnerships
doesn't have that advantage
there, to me much more complex.
And the structure itself is like
is like building a giant tower
that may tend to wobble a little
bit, especially when we take
into account the nuances of
local state laws. But there are
advantages to a limited
partnership. Like I said, there
are specific tax savings that
are only available to limited
partnership organizations, so
that those flow through the the
taxes that are there, for
example, there's some like an
asset, some equipment,
depreciation, things like that
are only available through
limited partnerships. And so if
that's a key component of the
structure itself of your
syndication or fun, you might
choose to do a limited
partnership. And the second
reason that you might do a
limited partnership is there
definitely is a very clear
delineation of these people are
limited partners. This person is
the general partner, which gives
you the sense of okay, well,
that means I really am the only
decision maker in this reality
is though, we can change that in
an LLC operating agreement to
give you the sponsor still
essentially the same amount of
control and rights that you
would have in a limited
partnership with just a very
small amount of weakness, right,
the amount of risk that's
created by that weakness, in my
opinion, generally, and this may
not apply to your specific
situation. So talk to your
attorney before proceeding is
that the nuance isn't worth the
difference in going to the
limited partnership versus a
limited liability company. At
the end of the day, almost
always I recommend people doing
a limited liability company.
There's only specific nuances
which may or may not apply to
you and to your particular
situation. My name is Tilden
Moschetti. I am a syndication
attorney with the Moschetti
Syndication Law Group. If we can
help you with your syndication,
or investment fund, whether you
think it really shouldn't be a
limited partnership, or you're
going to go with a limited
liability company, we can help
you either way, make sure that
you're set up properly, that you
get the right amount of
compliance. But also, most
importantly, at the end of the
day, you have somebody who's
experienced and somebody who has
actual boots on the ground
experience, because I do my own
deals. I've been in your shoes,
I've had to make the choice for
myself on whether to do a
limited liability company or an
LP. I am live with the
consequences of that decision,
which fortunately has been an
LLC so there hasn't been
negative consequences. But we
can help you as well. Give us a
call if you'd like to talk about
your project, and we can take it
from there.