Launching Real Estate Syndications - Ep 11 - Marketing the Investment to Investors
Tilden Moschetti: Okay,
congratulations, you've gotten
all your forms together, you
know, what SEC section you're
going under, I'm going to assume
that you're going to be doing a
506c, for this module. And the
reason for that is we're talking
about marketing the, the
investment opportunity that you
have, how do you put it out
there, you're going to do a lot
more marketing in the context of
a 506c than a 506b, it's not to
say you don't mark it in 506 B.
But when I use the word market,
and I'm talking about 506, B,
I'm really just talking about
how do you have the pitch
between you and the contacts
that you already have that are
already established, those pre
existing relationships,
remember, we cannot mark it out
to the external world, in a
506b, we cannot take money from
unaccredited investors in and
market out. In that context, if
you're doing a 506b, it has to
be only two people that you have
a preexisting business
relationship with. So I'm making
the assumption here that you're
going to be doing a 506c. But if
you're doing a 506b still pay
attention, because we're talking
about some general things which
are important, like accredited
investors, who they are what
they are, you still need to know
that because you can only have
up to 35 unaccredited investors,
and the rest of them, you can
have an unlimited amount of
accredited investors. And then
for the we're also going to talk
about how you pitch it itself,
and how do you frame that
investment. So let's go ahead
and get started.
Alright, so let's go ahead and
get started in this module on
marketing the investment itself.
So first off, let's have a
conversation about accredited
investors, because they're the
people that you are marketing to
primarily, we're talking again,
about 506c, because in that
point, we are only able to take
money from people who are
accredited investors. So for
someone to be an accredited
investor there is they really
have to meet one of say, really
three criteria that we normally
encounter. So the first criteria
is their income level, that
income level is needs to be
either $200,000 If we're relying
just on one person's income, so
they need to be making more than
$200,000 of taxable income in
order to meet that level. Or
they need to be making $300,000
If we're using the income of a
spouse, as well. So over
$300,000, and again, this isn't
your, your net income, that
before expenses on your taxes,
if you've got your own business
we're talking about this is your
actual taxable income. That's
what matters here. So taxable
income needs to be of that
level. So the other test is what
is the the wealth level of the
of the investor are to become an
accredited investor, it needs to
be over $1 million. Now in what
what do we count as that as
going towards that we do not
count the personal residence of
the investor. Now, that is a
huge amount of wealth that is
not being counted, but it
doesn't still exclude the
personal residence from what we
have to do to make sure that
they're there. So for example,
if Bob Smith has a, a net
income, or a personal wealth of
$1,200,000, so Bob has that
money $1.2 million in cash in
his checking account. Does that
mean he is an accredited
investor? Maybe, maybe not. So
that's where personal residence
comes into play. So if the
personal residence is let's say
he owns a home, that's present
value is $800,000. So it's an
$800,000. Home that's on the
market, but you know, he bought
it right before the market
crashed and he bought it for
$1.1 million. So that property
is underwater $300,000, which we
subtract out of his personal
wealth, which remember was 1.2
million. Now his personal wealth
is $900,000. He is not an
accredited investor. So that's
why it matters. The third
category is the SEC now allows
accredited vectors to be people
who have a securities license.
And so those people can be
considered accredited investors
as well. So that is how we
determine who's an accredited
investor, because those are the
people that we're selling to. So
the second thing I wanted to
talk about is, how do we put
ourselves forward. Now, we
talked a little bit before about
marketing to investors, but we
want to make sure that our
branding really is in place,
right? I want somebody when they
look me up to see, wow, this
guy's the real deal. So that
does mean that we need to have a
good website, maybe a sales
funnel, things like that, in
order to make it clear that
we've got a good, a good
presence, and we know what we're
doing. Let's go ahead and look
at the whiteboard real quick.
Because you heard me use a term
sales funnel, I want to say,
describe exactly what I'm
talking about here. And it
doesn't really matter when I'm
talking sales funnel or website,
the same functionality should be
there for your investors. So
you've got a location on the
internet, and here's your logo.
And you've got an about us. And
you've got a investments,
whatever. You know, that's your
menu bar. And then if you look
at a huge number of websites,
mine included, we've got like a
video or something here. And
then we've got a whole bunch of
information here.
And then up here, this is what
you really should think about
having now this, you would only
do on a 506c, do not do this, if
you have a 506b, you do not want
to be putting on the internet
that this is even something that
somebody could even think about
investing in, because that will
get you in trouble. Guaranteed,
you will get caught, you will be
in trouble. This is in violation
of that exception. And it will
not go well for you. So for 560,
though, I want to capture the
name and the email, maybe the
phone. Right. So it's what this
is, is a lead capture form. I
want to know if people are
interested in investing. And so
putting something like this on
your website is really, really
helpful. It's not, you may not
get a lot of traffic through
there. But you certainly will
look like you are ready and
you're doing business the right
way when people do look you up
and see you there. So having
this kind of presence on the
Internet is important. So that's
one of the things in terms of
marketing. So again, not
critical in terms of actually
using this to find investors,
just like I talked about in the
finding investor piece. The
reality is you're not going to
be finding a lot of investors,
by just putting something on the
internet, it's not gonna happen.
I've said that time and time
again, the people who are
marketing that way out there are
doing a great disservice to the
people who are wanting to get
started in syndication, it's
setting unrealistic
expectations, that does not
happen. So now, you've
identified this group of people,
they're accredited investors
that you you think they're
accredited investors, how do we
actually pitch this deal? Now,
part of what we do is we put
together a pitch deck and we go
through. And that's there. It's
just like, if you're a real
estate agent, doing a listing
presentation, it's very similar
in terms of what that looks
like. But I would pose to you
that it's difficult to get an
investor to just give you money,
a lot of money in with just a
listing presentation. The
conversation needs to change. So
they've said that they're
interested, but to get them from
interested to read how hot ready
to buy, you know, ready to
invest excited to do this? It's
a lot more difficult than just,
you know, putting together just
a simple thing, or is it more
difficult than I want to ask
you? It's definitely difficult
if you're doing it the way that
you think you should if you're
doing it the way that some other
gurus tell you to do it, if you
do it by just talking to them
about how great the deal is.
You're missing the boat, because
somebody isn't going to make
that leap in their mental head
from interested to ready to
invest. Now, why is that? Well,
first off, investors are tend to
be rather conservative about how
who they give their money to,
they don't have $250,000 to
invest, because they just give
it out willy nilly, they need to
be really kind of convinced and
persuaded that this is something
that's worthwhile for them to
do. And in order for them to
make that leap, they need to do
first make sure that they
understand the deal. So they
need to understand it. So that's
part of the conversation. But
then they need to have an
emotional change that takes
place, when you do a listing
presentation, you are going to
add it directly on a logical
basis. If you look at it in this
frame
you've got this little bit here
is the logical decision making
process. The reality is the
iceberg is ginormous. And this
is the emotional part. I would
suggest to you and a lot of
people agree with me that we
make our decisions with emotion.
And then we checked with our
rational side in order to make
sure that we may are making a
good decision. So you need to,
yes, you need to talk about the
rational side. But you need to
make a create an emotional shift
in your investor to how do we do
that? It is not by using a
listing presentation style of,
well, you're going to be able to
get a 17% return annualized over
this property by investing
$250,000 with me divided into
$1,000 shares, we're gonna have
a five year hold, and we're
estimating No, no, no, no, no
way Is anybody going to invest
in that it's awful. So we have
to come to this person to where
they're at. This person exists
in the world, in their own head,
right. So this person has
emotions, they have a backstory,
they have everything that takes
place about themselves, they
have a lens through which they
see the entire world. And this
person has feelings. This person
has emotions. And this person
has problems. Problems here. So
we don't forget, problems.
People make emotional decisions,
because they have problems. And
they want answers to those
problems, they want a resolution
to it. They start off with a
problem here, right, they're
here on this basis with a
problem, they have no idea how
to cross this chiasm and get to
the promised land over here.
Oops. With that problem is
resolved. There is a pit here
that needs to be navigated. So
you may be asking yourself, that
guy's got $250,000 A million
dollars to invest, what kind of
problems does he have that
relate to what I do? I mean, I'm
certainly not talking about the
problems in his marriage of the
problems with his kids are the
problems that we have about the,
you know, whoever's in the White
House or not in the White House
or whatnot. We're not talking
about those, right? So the
answer is no, we're not talking
about this, but this guy has
particular problems that you can
solve. For example, one problem
that many people have is
diversity in what they're
invested in, they may have all
of their money in stocks, and
that is just not a proper way to
do a portfolio of assets. Or
they have all of their money,
even worse in their company
stock, all of their money
sitting in their company stock
and if their company goes
bankrupt, they are screwed. So
diversity is a real problem is
that they're not diverse. It's
all concentrated in one asset
type. And that is most people
are concentrated in just one
asset type. Or they're just
concentrated in Non alternative
investments. So real estate is
considered an alternative
investment. They've got all
their money in stocks, bonds,
maybe some futures and
commodities. And that is it. But
what we're offering is to
actually diversify into another
asset class, which is real
estate. And real estate is a
great asset, which leads us to,
they want to invest in real
estate, but they may not have
the $5 million to invest in the
property that you're
syndicating. They don't have $5
million. And if they did have $5
million, and they wanted to
invest all of that money, they
also now they're suddenly not
diverse. Right now, all their
money is in that one properties
basket. So they got a problem
that they want to get in. But
they also can't get in the way
they want to. Or maybe they
don't have time, they just don't
have time to manage a property,
or they don't have time in order
to find a good property to
invest it.
Maybe they're very concerned
about inflation. Real estate is
an excellent hedge on inflation,
because you're using today's
money in order to make money at
tomorrow's rental rates. So it's
a great hedge on inflation, then
there is credit risk, maybe they
just don't want to be signing
for a loan for a property, like
a 5 million property $5 million
property, they want to be
exposed to real estate, and they
want to find a good investment,
but they just don't have the
inclination to take yet a more
debt on their name for
themselves. So we can solve
these problems. Oops. So
diversity, real estate is
diverse. It is an alternative
investment. And it as is at a
lower dollar amount. I mean, I
typically do $50,000 As my
threshold, in order to get into
my investment, I generally don't
target people at the 50,000 I
try to get at least 100,000. But
then some people just want to
get experimental, you know, just
get a little exposure and come
in for 50. That's fine, happy to
take their money and make them
some money. So it is, so they
can also invest now in mind, and
then another one of mine, and
then another one of mine, and
then this other guys and then
this other guys, they can spread
their money around. And now
they've got real diversity, not
just in asset class, but also in
location and property type. So
we've got also the that they
want to get into real estate.
Well, this is a perfect
mechanism in order for them to
do that without spending that $5
million time this is
professionally managed. This is
you a syndicator managing the
property or managing the asset,
making sure it's managed the
right way and really maximizing
that value. It's an inflation
edge, you've already got that.
And you've got the whole issue
that they're not signing on the
credit. As long as they've been
investing less than 20% in the
into the property in general.
They suddenly are now a minority
holder, that very not even a
minority holder that does not
need to sign on loan documents.
So they're getting that exposure
and they're you're solving this
problem for them. And how are
you solving the problem for
them? You're solving the problem
through your syndication.
So your syndication is taking
them from where they're at with
these problems, not having the
diversity or the time of them
being wanting to be in real
estate, but not able to do that
and giving them that and that
makes the transformation as soon
as you identify the problem. And
they really feel that problem.
And then you hold up the
solution, the probability that
while they could possibly own
all these things, and all that
pain can be eliminated. Well,
this gap here opens up and then
your answer is the answer in
order to take them there. And
that's how you market a property
in a pitch so that they can
understand that your what you're
offering is not just some boring
mode or in 17%. Now what you're
offering is a solution to that
problem. They're putting their
money to work, but they're doing
it in a way that solves that,
that kind of irritation that
they've got and makes it much
better for them so that they can
do things Like be comfortable
about that spend time doing
other things rather than
thinking about real estate, real
estate, they can take care of
their kids, they can build their
legacy, whatever those goals are
for them over here, you can help
deliver that. And that's one of
the great things about being a
syndicator. Because you get to
be part of this solution for
them and to make that bridge. So
that is the way that we talk
about how to solve their problem
and do that, do that pitch for
them. Now, in the next module,
we're going to now now that
we've solved that problem for
them, and they understand and
they're excited to buy now what
do we do with those investors?
So we do three things. We're
going to be latching the
investor to the investment.
We're going to get them
accredited, and we're going to
start taking that money that's
that's from them and start
putting it towards the
investment. So we're gonna go
through those three steps in the
next module.